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	<title>Comments on: Ignoring or Avoiding The Discussion of Heresy, Doesn&#8217;t Make It Go Away.</title>
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	<description>Just my 2¢ (worth even less now than is used to be)</description>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does Ian; in which case I agree with you. Thanks for replying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does Ian; in which case I agree with you. Thanks for replying.</p>
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		<title>By: Starlyth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Starlyth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 22:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damian:

I am not talking about telling everyone where I disagree with them theologically (that would be too many, sometimes even myself as I wrestle with things).  This is one of those, &quot;I know it when I see things,&quot; which is a situation I try not to put myself into, but often do.

My primary concern is that the &quot;mainline&quot; churches (especially, but I&#039;m starting to see it in my own denomination) are trying so hard to be &quot;tolerant&quot; and &quot;open&quot;, that the foundational beliefs (such the traditions you noted) are being ignored or avoided, which often leads to bad or wrong theology.

I am not talking about true humility or even fear of confrontation, but flat-out it doesn&#039;t matter to them anymore (if it ever did), while at the same time saying it does.  My concern in regards to humility is that it often leads to inaction, which can be as dangerous as overreaction.

Prayer and discernment are the keystones to all of this.

Does that help clarify what I meant?

-Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damian:</p>
<p>I am not talking about telling everyone where I disagree with them theologically (that would be too many, sometimes even myself as I wrestle with things).  This is one of those, &#8220;I know it when I see things,&#8221; which is a situation I try not to put myself into, but often do.</p>
<p>My primary concern is that the &#8220;mainline&#8221; churches (especially, but I&#8217;m starting to see it in my own denomination) are trying so hard to be &#8220;tolerant&#8221; and &#8220;open&#8221;, that the foundational beliefs (such the traditions you noted) are being ignored or avoided, which often leads to bad or wrong theology.</p>
<p>I am not talking about true humility or even fear of confrontation, but flat-out it doesn&#8217;t matter to them anymore (if it ever did), while at the same time saying it does.  My concern in regards to humility is that it often leads to inaction, which can be as dangerous as overreaction.</p>
<p>Prayer and discernment are the keystones to all of this.</p>
<p>Does that help clarify what I meant?</p>
<p>-Ian</p>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 07:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian,

What is it you mean by &quot;won&#039;t stand for what they say they believe&quot;?

I think you must be aware in this the difference between those who don&#039;t know what they believe (a great many people, I fear), those who don&#039;t truly believe it, and those who are humble about their ability to be correct.

I&#039;d class myself in the latter. I know there are a great many ways to interpret scripture, and I don&#039;t claim that I am infallible in interpretation. Hence, I hesitate to make absolute statements about it. 

I look to tradition (not just my own, but the wider protestant, Catholic and Orthodox traditions, as well as the early church) to measure myself against, but I certainly wouldn&#039;t &#039;stand for what I say I believe&#039; in that I wouldn&#039;t make an &#039;i&#039;m right, you&#039;re wrong&#039; stance. I can argue my beliefs, and I&#039;ll live by them, but I wouldn&#039;t condemn others according to my beliefs, because chances are one of the other interpretations is right and I&#039;m wrong.

I look at it as humility.

Anyway, thanks for writing - I enjoy your blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian,</p>
<p>What is it you mean by &#8220;won&#8217;t stand for what they say they believe&#8221;?</p>
<p>I think you must be aware in this the difference between those who don&#8217;t know what they believe (a great many people, I fear), those who don&#8217;t truly believe it, and those who are humble about their ability to be correct.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d class myself in the latter. I know there are a great many ways to interpret scripture, and I don&#8217;t claim that I am infallible in interpretation. Hence, I hesitate to make absolute statements about it. </p>
<p>I look to tradition (not just my own, but the wider protestant, Catholic and Orthodox traditions, as well as the early church) to measure myself against, but I certainly wouldn&#8217;t &#8217;stand for what I say I believe&#8217; in that I wouldn&#8217;t make an &#8216;i&#8217;m right, you&#8217;re wrong&#8217; stance. I can argue my beliefs, and I&#8217;ll live by them, but I wouldn&#8217;t condemn others according to my beliefs, because chances are one of the other interpretations is right and I&#8217;m wrong.</p>
<p>I look at it as humility.</p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for writing &#8211; I enjoy your blog!</p>
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